So you want to how the restoration of the
for my E-M-F Automobile is going?
Well, you have found the right page.
Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:35 PM
The Rear Fenders are equally as bad, but I think that there is enough left to be able to piece them back together. I actually have two extra sets of fenders from a 5-Passenger touring that I can use to help repair my rear fenders.
The rear fenders for the 1912 E-M-F's appear to be different between all the body styles. The Demi Tonneau that I have has beads in the fenders that run parallel to each other starting at the running board and extending all the way up the fender to the back where they come together. They 5-Passenger Touring fenders are different from these in that the inner bead (toward the body) follows the contour of the body. The 1912 Roadsters are different from both of these in that the angle of the fender from the running board up and over the wheel is not as sharp, giving it more of a "racy" look.
If anyone has a set of rear fenders for a 1912 E-M-F Demi tonneau that they would like to trade for two sets of rear fenders for a 5-Passenger Touring, or would just like to sell outright, please contact me! If I have to, I will cannibalize the 5-Passenger rear fenders to fix my Demi Tonneau fenders.
The Splash Aprons are rough, but have enough left for patterns. I think I can make new splash aprons myself.
The good news in all this fender talk is that I found a set of original Front Fenders and bought them. They are not perfect, but they should not need much work. You can see in the pictures the passenger side fender I bought, and the original passenger side front fender off of my car. Can you understand why I wanted to buy these fenders? I figure they will save me MONTHS of work in the restoration.
I will probably not be doing much with these fenders for some time to come, but I wanted to get this page started since I had the pictures taken. I'll post more when there is more to post.
Sunday, November 4, 2001 11:38 AM
Tuesday, December 30, 2014 9:24 AM
The second picture is a close up of the head of the tool and the first test bead made with the bead tool I made to put a bead into the patch I need to weld into the fender patch panels of the E-M-F.
Saturday, November 4, 2017 6:30 PM
The right picture above shows the fender in the approximate position it would sit on the car. Notice how the back of it is bent down. It should be parallel to the ground. I believe I have actually tried to pull it back up into position a bit. I am not sure I can get this all straightened out. We will see.
If you look at the right picture above, you can see the creasing in the top part of the fender. Notice where the fender iron is riveted on is creades as well. What ever they backed into, they hit it hard.
Also notice that the supporting edge around the outside is missing many inches of material. This will be interesting. I with I could just find some new fenders for the back. That is likely not going to happen.
I used the tool I made for putting the bead in and made a patch panel to weld into the fender. The right picture above shows the patch sitting against the fender approximately where it goes.
Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:37 PM
You can see in the picture on the left above the three pieces separated and sitting on the floor in the garage. "The edge" part is in two pieces because part of it was missing. I was going to use and "edge" from a spare 5-Passenger touring fender. You can see this "edge" in the picture on the right above along with the pieces from the fender from my car. Problem with this plan is that the arc is not quite the same. So my plan is to take pieces from the donor fender "edge" and piece together an "edge" which will work using the main arc from my original fender.
Once the parts were separated, I was able to work on the "main part" of the fender and get it much closer to shape. I straightened the back panel and welded up some of the parts of it that needed it. I will be able to use the curve in the "back Panel" to determine the angle of the tail part of the fender which was bent down so bad.
One final note on this entry. Something I would do different: I wish I had put a mark on the three pieces before I took them apart to show alignment. Like a sharpie line mark across the joint of the "back panel": and "main part" in several places. I think it would help with alignment as I reassemble. We will see how that goes.
Sunday, January 7, 2018 6:43 PM
I have also been working on the "main part" of the fender doing the same type of body work. It looks like it is back into the shape I need it to be and best of all, "back panel" fits in just as it should.
I think I will need a second set of hands to to it and hold everything together as I re-crimp the joint. If all goes well, my next session in the garage will involve this reassembly. Stay tuned.....
Monday, January 15, 2018 7:17 PM
Once we had it back into its slot, I went around with a pair of Vise-Grip pliers and folded the crimp back down. I worked around the fender slowly crimping it a little at a time. The finished product looked better than I ever imagined. I decided to let the paint dry good with the finder mounted in the position it would be on the car.
The next day I decided to start work on fabricating "the edge". If you remember, I was missing a piece about 8 inches long right where the fender had been folded down. I had hoped to just use an edge from my donor fender, but the arc of that 5-Passenger Touring fender was not the same as the on on my Demi Tonneau.
So I decided to take a piece out of the edge from the donor fender and weld it between the two pieces of my fenders edge. To do this, first I cut a piece out of the donor edge which was longer than I needed and fit that into the fender. This piece contained the curve for the flat back part of the fender, so it was important.
I then fit the other two original pieced to that. I pulled the fender into the correct shape and then tacked the three pieces together. Then I was able to put it on the car and see how it looked, made a couple of adjustments, and then did final welding of the three pieces into one. When done, I put it back on the car and it looks pretty good. The Right picture about shows it on the car.
Next up is to finish up "the edge". This will involve more welding and body work. I think I will put some filler on this as well while it is apart and easy to work with. Might be easier than doing it when it is all assembled. Making progress slowly.
Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:46 PM
Once "the edge" piece was ready, I prepared to assemble it to the "main part". To do this, I wanted to mount the fender to the fender irons in a more solid manner than I had been doing. So I found some bolts, washer and nuts the appropriate size.
Then, like when I attached the "rear panel", I painted all sides of the joint with POR-15, then assembled it in the same way I did the back panel. I was able to do this one by myself. Once I had the folded edge re-crimped, I put the fender on the car and pulled it down with the bolts. I then checked alignment and made a couple of adjustments. I figure when the POR-15 is dry, it will not be able to move again.
I have to tell you I am extremely happy with the way it is looking. The lines are just the way they should be. I am so happy I decided to disassemble the fender into its three parts. I do not think I would have ever gotten this fender to look like this any other way.
The last thing I want to do to this fender is fix the other end which attaches to the running board. I already have a patch made up for this end, but wanted to wait till I had the rest of the fender in shape before I did this.
First thing I had to do though was remove the running board. The running board on the right side is not original to the car. In fact, it looks like it may be a plank rough sawn on the farm where this car spent its entire life prior to joining our family.
I was able to get the three bolts undone which held the running board to the brackets (should have been six bolts). I am not ready to start fitting this patch panel into the fender. Next time in the garage, I will start cutting metal and getting it to fit. A little progress is a good thing.
Tuesday, January 23, 2018 7:32 PM
I was going to continue welding in the patch but it has been times like this in the past that I have wished I had just waited till another night and not rushed. So what is what I did tonight. I want to make sure everything looks good before I put it in for good. It appears to be lining up well. I will have to stitch this in slowly so as not to warp the metal.
I may go out again tomorrow night. We will see how I feel when I get home from work.
Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:10 PM
Next up I will start looking at the left rear fender, which is the worst one. I am sure it will take me longer to put back together.
Wednesday, February 7, 2018 6:12 PM
You can see from the pictures that the back end of the fender, the part that should should come straight back parallel to the ground, it completely missing from the fender. Someone obviously backed this car into the barn at some point in its history.
Further inspection leads me to believe that the fender irons themselves may also be bent. I will have to start by getting them back into alignment. The end that bolt to the running board will also need to be replaced on this fender in a similar way to what I did on the other fender. The difference with this side is that the very edge which I saved on the other fender, I will have to replace on this one. That will require some additional fabrication on the patch I create.
For the patch for the very back of the fender, I will cut the back off of one of my spare 5-Passenger touring fenders and weld it onto this one. I will pick the one where the beads line up closest. initial measurements show that they are not all the same, but at least one is close enough.
Next steps will be straightening the fender irons and then disassembling the fender into its separate parts. Stay tuned.